Question

IDF was created out of the ashes of a terrorist organization. I'm not making this shit up.

Answer 1

This post is misleading and taken out of context. The Israeli defense force was created by merging numerous national defense groups. Among these groups were the Haganah, Irgun, and Lehi. The Irgun and Lehi were known to be violent groups, often using Guerrilla tactics and terror tactics to promote their message. Both these groups were considered terrorist organizations by the British. However, the Haganah was the core of the IDF and was supported by the majority due to its moderate stance and focus on defending the nation rather than harming other nations.

Sources:

https://www.jstor.org/stable/45346658?seq=1

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Israel-Defense-Forces

Comments

I like how you provided background and context so readers understand the claim. Nice work on your fact-check.

Answer 2

This. So much this.

Israel was established to destroy mxslims and all that we see glory. One hundred percent, no less, of the "Jewish" "People"  that occupy this land are actors. Ever wonder why the Jews started Hollywood? So they could train as many actors as possible to enact the live, genocidal, performance art that is "Israel".

"Israel was formed post-Holocaust, to re-establish the indigenous people of the land after their displacement and mass extermination"- Lets break this down.

"Holocaust."---"Holo" "caust"-----

Holo=Challah, caust=cost.

Challah, cost.

Challah cost.

The so called "Holocaust" has been massively distorted, and actually refers to the Jewish peoples dissatisfaction with inflation--that, to be clear, was caused by them- and their attempts to seek a way out. Best way to fix inflation? Best response to the "Challah-Cost"?  To establish a new nation, with a new economy. The Challah Cost goes down.

Of course the Jewish people would want to eradicate us Mxslims. As a Poly-AMAB-Czechian-Armenian-Enby, I am the Jews worse nightmare. Why? Because I embody Allxh. I embody the Qurxn.

Comments

Very strange answer, you provide zero sources to back up your 'claim' and purely state opinions that bear strong resemblance to antisemitic conspiracy theories. Saying "I am the Jews worst nightmare" in a fact check discredits any objective facts you may have found, which seems unlikely given the fact that you cited no sources. Other fact checks on this same claim agree with the overall idea you have, but remain objective and rely on facts from reputable sources, creating far more creditability.

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This answer is deeply disturbing. and also incorrect. The term Holocaust comes from the Greek word 'holokauston' meaning "a burnt sacrifice offered whole to god", the term was adopted in reference to the six million jews that were burnt in crematoriums.

Answer 3

This article was published by the New York Times and was commented on by a user named Vinaigrette on the side. The reputation of the post is the fact of whether the IDF was created to be a terrorist organization. As we can see in the post first reponders are reportedly killing 15 Muslim people most likely due to there religion making a very unjust move. This source from NYT is very reliable as it is a main media source and the video seem to be non AI generated. 

Some articles we can tye to this event are :

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0r5zz0gd0no  (BBC directly talks about this incident taking place) 

"The emergency vehicles pull over and the sound of gunfire begins just as Radwan gets out. It continues for more than five minutes and Radwan is heard saying his last prayers, before the voices of Israeli soldiers are heard approaching." (BBC, Article). This quote shows the aftermath of what happens after all the events leading up to the situation where guns are pulled on a harmless man. 

As for the NYT in the video we can hear a lot of chaotic noise from the video due to the event taking place in such harsh terms. Making this even seem as the IDF was truly created to terrorize. 

Comments

It looks like the source you cited was taken down. I was curious as to why you considered that to be relevant to the topic, as we are talking about the roots of the IDF, not the actions of Israeli first responders.

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The BBC link doesn't work, FYI!

Answer 4

​The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) were officially established on May 26, 1948, shortly after Israel declared independence. The IDF unified various pre-state Jewish paramilitary organizations, including the Haganah, Irgun, and Lehi (also known as the Stern Gang).

Upon the creation of the IDF, these groups were disbanded, and their members were integrated into the new national military to form a unified defense force for the nascent State of Israel. https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-founding-of-the-israel-defense-forces?utm_source

Comments

Super succinct answer. The addition of Irgun and Lehi groups is exactly what I was looking for in my claim. I also like how you added the Stern Gang, attaching it to the Lehi group. The use of "disbanded" instead of dissolved or destroyed is perfect in this case as well.

Answer 5

The Israeli Defense Forces, or IDF, began forming due to an order issued by Ben Gurion on May 26th, 1948. The core of this military group was conscripted from the pre-World War II defense group the Hagana (Britannica para 3). The source you have used to base this claim is a video of current IDF operations, not operations taken in or before 1948. The Haganah defense group did become what historians would categorize as a "terrorist organization", however, that was only at the end of their long career (Britannica para 2). Your claim of the IDF being created out of the "ashes of a terrorist organization" doesn't work due to the fact that the Haganah defense fighters were conscripted and meshed into the new "IDF" , thus the organization ceasing to exist; it wasn't destroyed. Also, due to the fact that multiple groups beyond just the Haganah also became a part of this new formation (IaW final paragraph). 

https://www.idf.il/en/articles/2021/the-origins-of-the-israel-defense-forces/

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Haganah