Question

NATO (the US) is an offensive military organization that pushed Ukraine into a proxy war with Russia. They are not the good guys.

Answer 1

The original primary reason for any western powers, even NATO to get involved within that war was to help defend Ukraine from invasion, not to hurt Russia. For it to be a proxy war, the main intention of NATO would have to be the invasion of Russia. NATO would have had to instigate conflict which was not the case. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/05/03/why-ukraine-isnt-proxy-war-yet/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

Russia invaded Ukraine, and Ukraine only acted in self defense in any and all military actions. Ukraine is it's own nation and it has the capabilities to defend itself with their own strategies and personnel. And they did so. For it to be a proxy war you would have to suggest Ukraine didn't have those decision making capabilities, nor the people in order to fight. https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2023-02-21/expert-comment-no-proxy-war-russia-really-invaded-ukraine

Comments

I appreciated your unbiased approach towards this issue and your very factual information. However, it was a little confusing whether you were summarizing the articles you read or sharing your own original thought. I think citing specific evidence from your sources could make your argument stronger, along with sharing how and why your sources are credible. After reading the attached articles, your information really helped me understand the topic!

Answer 2

    No, NATO itself is an alliance whose members are committed to protecting one another from threat. Ukraine not a member of NATO but a close ally has received lots of support and funding from NATO countries claiming "NATO supports Ukraine's fundamental right to self-defense" showing their acting in defense of a threat which is Russia and their crusade for Ukraines land based on imperial entitlement. Ukraine is not the country that started the invasion. A proxy war would be a war fought between countries that aren't themselves involved, indirect military confrontation. The US specifically has sent around 65 Billion to Ukraine since the start of Russias Invasion. So with all this information we see NATO is not offensive in an anyway, the US and NATO couldn't have directed Russia to invade Ukraine so they could start a war. On the other end Ukraine only started receiving aid in 2014 when Russia initially invaded and large scale funding during Russias full-scale invasion of Ukraine in 2022. The attached original source also sounds more like Russian propaganda than anything placing blame on NATO whose job it is to protect their members.

Another source used: The Hill

Answer 3

This claim is unequivocally false and conspiratorial. Firstly, the US is not using Ukraine as a proxy to fight Russia. Oxford dictionary defines a “proxy war” as  “a war fought between states that are not themselves officially involved, often one in which one or more of the active parties in the conflict is not a country or state.”  Joe Biden and Donald Trump, the presidents who have served the US since Russia’s 2022 invasion, have both made it clear that they gave (and continue to give) support and aid to Ukraine to prevent Russia from raging more war, not to insight war on Russia. This poster also suggests that the United States pushed Ukraine into a war with Russia, when in reality the war was started in 2014 with Russia’s annexation of Crimea. Putin said this annexation was a “return to the Motherland,” implying that land once belonging to the USSR should be given to Russia. When Russia invaded in 2022, president Zelenskyy even declined an evacuation from the US. Logically speaking, Zelenskyy refusing to leave Ukraine as its capital was being surrounded by Russian troops is not consistent with the theory that he was responsible for starting the war due to pressure from the US. The theory that NATO encouraged Ukraine to start the war is also logically flawed, as Ukraine has been repeatedly denied admittance to the UN. https://www.oed.com/dictionary/proxy-war_n?tab=factsheet#28029735100 https://www.state.gov/bureau-of-political-military-affairs/releases/2025/01/u-s-security-cooperation-with-ukraine https://apnews.com/article/europe-russia-ukraine-vladimir-putin-black-sea-1bcf6915ae6a41f2a7dff408a99720ab https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-volodymyr-zelenskyy-vladimir-putin-boris-johnson-joe-biden-5a433ebe7f9cbc9f299b3795de895147

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/13/us/politics/nato-ukraine.html#:~:text=Ukrainian%20leaders%20have%20waffled%20on,has%20shaped%20the%20American%20approach.&text=Former%20President%20Viktor%20Yushchenko%20wanted,Sea%20naval%20port%20in%20Crimea.