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Ukraine was part of the Soviet Union until 1991.
Who drew the new lines?
The Donbas ethnic Russian people wouldn't feel unsafe if they weren't constantly attacked.
Their education is in Ukrainian, & their access to any governmental/local jobs is dependent on their ability to speak Ukrainian.

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ago by Newbie (270 points)

The claim about people in Donbas only feeling unsafe because they’re “constantly attacked” and being excluded for speaking Russian is oversimplified and not fully accurate. First, the source is just a social media post, not a verified expert or news organization, so it doesn’t have strong credibility. When you look at better coverage, reporting from groups like BBC News and United Nations shows that the conflict in eastern Ukraine started in 2014 with Russian-backed separatists and has involved fighting from both sides, not just one-sided attacks. Also, Ukrainian is the official language of the country, so requiring it for government jobs is normal and doesn’t automatically mean discrimination, and Russian is still widely spoken in daily life, including in the Donbas region. When tracing the claim back, it reflects narratives often pushed by pro-Russian sources that frame Ukraine as oppressing Russian speakers, even though major human rights reports have not found evidence of systematic persecution. Overall, the claim is misleading because it leaves out key context about the war and exaggerates language-based discrimination.

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ago by Newbie (320 points)

Just a couple of things here. Yes, Ukraine was part of the USSR, but Russia itself was the one that signed the agreement in 1991, which recognized Ukraine’s borders, so the “who drew the lines” argument actually works against Russia. As for Donbas, the population there was actually majorly ethnic Ukrainian, not Russian, and for 8 years the OSCE monitored the region and never found any evidence of systematic attacks on Russian speakers. What is documented is that Russia organized and funded the separatist movement through its Kremlin advisors. Ukraine’s 2019 law does require government jobs and schools, and international bodies raised concerns about it. But it took 8 years of Russian-backed conflict for that law to arise. One real criticism doesn't make the whole narrative true.

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ago by Newbie (260 points)
The claim that Ukraine was part of the Soviet Union until 1991 is historically accurate, as it was a founding member of the USSR before 92% of its population—including majorities in every region—voted for independence following the union's collapse. However, the suggestion that borders were "newly drawn" at this time is misleading; Ukraine achieved independence within its existing administrative boundaries that had been established decades earlier as the Ukrainian SSR. Regarding the conflict in the Donbas between 2014 and 2022, the situation was complex: while approximately 3,400 civilians were killed and many ethnic Russians felt unsafe, independent monitors from the OSCE recorded thousands of ceasefire violations from both Ukrainian forces and Russian-backed separatists. Finally, the claims regarding language are largely grounded in legal reality, as 2017 and 2019 laws established Ukrainian as the primary language of instruction in schools and the mandatory language for public administration and government jobs, respectively.
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ago by Novice (710 points)

Ukraine was part of the Soviet Union until 1991, when it became independent after the USSR collapsed. But its borders weren’t suddenly created at that moment. Most of them had already been set during the Soviet era, when Ukraine was one of the republics inside the union. For example, Crimea was transferred to Ukraine in 1954 by Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev. When the Soviet Union broke apart, those internal borders basically became the official borders of independent countries.

The situation in the Donbas region is more complicated than just one side being attacked. The conflict started in 2014, when separatist groups—backed by Russia—took control of parts of eastern Ukraine. Fighting broke out between those groups and the Ukrainian government. While people often claim ethnic Russians in the region were being targeted, there isn’t strong evidence that Ukraine was systematically attacking or persecuting Russian speakers before the conflict began. Most international reports don’t support that idea.

As for language, Ukrainian is the country’s official language, so it’s used in government and public institutions. That means knowing Ukrainian can be important for government jobs, which is pretty normal in most countries. At the same time, Russian is still widely spoken, especially in eastern areas like Donbas. Some schools and communities use both languages, although recent policies have put more emphasis on Ukrainian in education.

Overall, the situation isn’t just about language or ethnicity—it’s tied to larger political and historical tensions in the region.

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ago by Newbie (270 points)

If you are looking at that BlueSky post about Ukraine, there is a mix of facts and missing context that you can use for your assignment. The claim that you need to speak Ukrainian to get a government job is actually mostly true; a law passed in 2019 established Ukrainian as the official language for all public sector roles, including civil service, the military, and the court system. While the post frames this as a way to "attack" people, the Ukrainian government originally created these rules to build a stronger national identity after Russia annexed Crimea in 2014. Regarding education, it is true that schools have shifted toward teaching in Ukrainian, but it isn't a total ban on other languages. There are still provisions for younger students to learn in minority languages, though the rules for the Russian language are much stricter than those for EU languages. While the laws do exist, they are often used by different sides as political talking points. One side sees it as necessary for national unity, while the other uses it to claim that ethnic Russians are being treated unfairly. Using a source like the Venice Commission would be a great way to show a more balanced, expert perspective on how these laws actually work.

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ago by Newbie (300 points)
Think of this as your investigation log. Answer each question to explain what you discovered and how you got there.

1. Write a brief overall summary of your findings.

The claim is somewhat true; Ukraine was a part of the Soviet Union until 1991.  Regardless, the statements about Donbas are exaggerated at best.  

3. What secondary sources did you find (e.g., newspapers, magazines)? Only use secondary sources if sufficient primary sources are not available. For each source, write at least one or two sentences explaining what you learned. Include all links.

https://www.britannica.com/place/Ukraine

Instead of creating new barriers/country lines when Ukraine left the Soviet Union, they inherited the former borders of the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic.

Also, Donbas people are not 'just' "ethnic Russians," they are a diverse group of people, and they're also not automatically on Russia's side, and many still identify with Ukraine.
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ago by Newbie (320 points)
This claims that Ukraine was apart of the Soviet Union until 1991. This is a true statement that they were apart of it but also seems misleading because of the site it was posted on.The primary source was Bluesky that allows public post through a media site.The potential bias that could be apart of this is just saying that Ukraine is apart of the Soviet Union for someone would wouldn't know. Even though this statement can seem bias, it is overall a true statement made on a website that connects with the media.
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