Question

All i know is Nato founded by Nazis

Helping Nazis in Ukraine

Controlled by the U.S who controlled by Zionazis

So basically everybody,wanted to be on the losing side

In World war 2

Answer 1

1. Write a brief overall summary of your findings.

 

World War II ended in 1945, and after which Germany and other Nazi occupied countries went through a period of Denazification, which was the process of removing Nazis and Nazism from public life following the fall of the Third Reich.

 

By the time Nato was formed in 1949, the allied occupation had been working for years to dismantle Nazi ideology and there was no concentrated Nazi power in Europe, meaning that they had no hand in the formation of NATO.

 

NATO is also a collection of allies which make collective decisions by consensus, they are not “controlled by the US”, in fact the current American administration is actually reducing participation in NATO.

 

NATO is indeed supporting Ukraine in the war, but the idea that Ukraine is being led by Nazi’s is highly exaggerated and a form of propaganda to justify Russia’s actions in Ukraine, as Russia has claimed they are waging the war to ‘denazify’ the country. Though Ukraine has a history with the Nazi party, the current government is in no way affiliated or supportive of the Nazi party, and Russia also has a history of classifying their enemies as Nazis, regardless of their actual affiliation with th Nazi party

 

2. What primary sources did you find (e.g., transcripts, videos of politician speeches, tweets from public figures, scientific studies)? 

 

https://www.nato.int/en/what-we-do/partnerships-and-cooperation/natos-support-for-ukraine - NATO’s statement of support for Ukraine

 

https://www.nato.int/en/about-us/organization/nato-member-countries - NATO’s list of member countries and statements about collective decisions, this page makes it clear that NATO is not “controlled by US” 

 

https://www.theholocaustexplained.org/survival-and-legacy/postwar-trials-and-denazification/ - The Wiener Holocaust library’s explanation of the dismantling of the Nazi party immediately following WWII

 

3. What secondary sources did you find (e.g., newspapers, magazines)? Only use secondary sources if sufficient primary sources are not available. 

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/ukraine-has-nazi-problem-vladimir-putin-s-denazification-claim-war-ncna1290946 - New’s article about Ukraine’s relationship to the Nazi party, both past and present.

Answer 2

The source of this claim is coming from the media platform Bluesky which is a decentralized, open-source social media platform like X, allowing users to post short messages, images, and videos. This source is not reliable to back up this statement because it is claims being made by anyone that doesn’t need to be fact checked. The source NATO.int listed the founding countries of NATO and Germany wasn’t one of the listen countries. “NATO's founding member countries were: Belgium, Canada, Denmark, France, Iceland, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, the United Kingdom and the United States.” now Germany isn’t the only place that Nazi’s resided but, to say that NATO was founded by Nazi’s is absurd when there were so many countries in NATO that fought against Germany in WWI. Furthermore, the person who posted this (@jim1993.bsky.social) has another post about his theories which once again he doesn’t back up with any reliable facts or sources. This supports my claim that this is just a statement with no facts and nothing that should be taken seriously.  

Comments

This claim comes from Bluesky, a social media site where users can share short messages, pictures, and videos. It's a platform that isn't controlled by one company, like X. This source is not trustworthy because anyone can say anything on it without needing to prove it's true. On the other hand, the official NATO website (NATO. int) shows the original member countries of NATO, and Germany is not one of them. NATO was started by Belgium, Canada, Denmark, France, Iceland, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, the United Kingdom, and the United States.

While Nazis were not just in Germany, saying that NATO was started by Nazis is not true and has no evidence. Many of the countries that started NATO fought against Germany in World War II, which shows that this claim is not true. Also, the person who made this post (@jim1993. bskysocial) has shared other ideas that don't have reliable sources or proof either. This further shows that the claim is untrue and shouldn't be believed.

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You did a good job pointing out that posts on Bluesky don’t require fact checking and can spread false claims easily. Using NATO’s official website to list the founding countries was strong evidence against the idea that NATO was “founded by Nazis.” It’s also important to note that working with former Nazis during the Cold War is not the same as North Atlantic Treaty Organization being created by them.

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You handled this claim very well. Of course if you tried to find most stuff on this you will not find many articles because this is total made up BS. Anyhow you still went and found the Founders of NATO, and the fact that most of if not all of NATO did fight against Nazis. Bluesky is also one of the least reputable places I have ever seen on the internet. If something did come from bluesky I feel like that is instant concern for false news. Since it allows any user to post anything there is a lot of fake stuff. Over all way to go!

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When debunking a claim, always seek out information from legitimate sources that back up your stance. Thanks!

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What are your sources for this fact-check (besides the social media link)? Always list them and provide URL source links.

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I like how you use the NATO's official website t fact check this so it gives us first hand evidence on whether or not the claim is true. The official website of any group is going to give us the best evidence on any topic because they post anything and everything they do on their. It's also smart because it look's at the user's history to show they aren't a reliable source. Using all of this shuts down down a rumor that could be very bad for that side

Answer 3

I find it interesting that the only evidence you have is from social media, do you possible have any primary reputable sources you could list in addition? It looks like the "proof" is a unrelated blurry video as well, would love to see actual evidence!

Answer 4

Bluesky, while arguably more credible than most social media platforms, is still a media platform with user biases and misinformation baked in. Also, to say that NATO is "founded by nazis" is a complete over-exaggeration. NATO has major fascistic influences in the same way that every other major ideology has some say in the decisions NATO makes as an organization. The only nazi who ever came close to influencing NATO was Heinrich Himmler and even then he never actually managed to do so in life. 

Sources: 

NATO's Nazi roots -

(https://wap21.org/?p=5177)

Heinrich Himmler - 

(https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/heinrich-himmler)

Answer 5

The claim that NATO was founded by Nazis is incorrect and leaves out context of the organizations history. First of all, on NATO.int, it discusses the twelve countries that signed the original treaty: Belgium, Canada, Denmark, France, Iceland, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, United Kingdom, and the United States. At the time of NATOs birth, none of these countries were lead by Nazis nor were they allied with Nazis. NATO.int also summarizes the entire history of the organization from its founding to today and talks through the conflicts and wars that it has been a part of. In an article from The Harvard International Review, NATO is quoted as an organization that "'keep[s] the Soviet Union out, the United States in, and the Germans down'". So, the claim that NATO was founded by Nazis is incorrect and glosses over the organization's founding and ideological belief of how to maintain peace in Europe. Now, on the claim that NATO is helping Nazis in Ukraine. It is unclear in the phrasing of this sentiment if the original author is talking about Ukrainian Nazis or Nazis trying to take over Ukraine, so I will cover both. Yes, Ukraine has a historical and modern connection with Nazis. According to NBC, they were invaded in WWII and people in Kyiv did support the Nazi party, thus leading to the deaths of approximately 100,000 Jews. In todays age, there has been a rise in the glorification of historical figured with connections to Nazis and the reappearance of antisemitic grafiti, but the same can be said about the US, with antisimetic incidents in the US skyrocketing 361% since the start of the Israel-Hamas war according to TIME. Additionally, President Zelensky is Jewish and had relatives die in WWII. Moving on to the question of wether or not Putins Russia is a Nazi State, an article from The Hill talks this through and makes a number of different connections between the way politics are wielded, the similarities between how Hitler and Putin manipulate and control the people around them, and the similarity's in ideology between the two states, painting a clear picture of, that although Putin likes to claim that Ukraine is a Nazi state, that Russia actually has more similarities to the Nazi regime than Ukraine has, and that it is entirely probable that Russia is a Nazi-like or Neo-Nazi state. Continuing to the third statement the author claims: that the U.S is controlled by Zionists. Trump is a confusing figure to understand; on the one hand, he preaches about America First and no more wars in other countries and staying out of foreign politics, yet he also is consistently meeting with Netanyahu over the Israeli-Hamas war, has started a war with Iran, and has kidnapped the leader of Venezuela. An article from BBC discusses the long standing connection between the US and Israel and how the public opinion about that alliance is shifting to a point where people no longer approve of the unquestioning support that Israel has gotten from the US and are question the US's foreign policy in regards to it. So yes, the US government has supported Israel for years and many of its current and past leaders support Israel and have gotten donations from them, but shifting public option makes it difficult to tell where politicians really stand on this. Some of the potential biases that my sources may have is their political connections, the fact that NATO.int is talking about itself and thus would try to paint itself in the best way possible, and their religious affiliation. The original author of this post has no evidence to back up their claim and has no proof that they actually know what they are talking about concerning this issue. I could not contact the original author.