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by Apprentice (1.1k points)
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After researching on my own, I have found this article to be accurate. Greenland has lost 20% of its ice potential, causing problems for ocean circulation and sea levels. Comparing all the articles I looked at as well, the New York Times article all contains the same evidence from credible scientist Chad Greene, a scientist at NASA. Their is also a video graph done by NASA about the decrease of ice mass.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2024/01/17/greenland-ice-sheet-sea-level-rise/

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/jan/17/greenland-losing-30m-tonnes-of-ice-an-hour-study-reveals

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMnFbIDIEGs
by Apprentice (1.7k points)
The New York Times is a credible source and the article was written by Delger Erdenesanaa, who is an environmental journalist. Throughout the article, there is evidence backed by reliable statistical websites. There is another website that covers this topic and the information seems to line up correctly and accurately.

https://www.democracynow.org/2024/1/18/headlines/greenlands_ice_sheet_loss_20_higher_than_thought_shedding_30m_tons_of_ice_an_hour
by Novice (860 points)
The New York Times is an extremely reputable source. I just think that diving a little deeper past the NYT and finding the initial sources would make this fact check that much more.
by Novice (700 points)
The New York Times is a reliable source of information, and the people interviewed are also from NASA. This article is absolutely authoritative.
by Novice (520 points)
I like how you pointed out the use of the same NASA scientist sourced figures between multiple trusted  publications. This greatly increases the credibility of each individual source
by Novice (980 points)
I liked how you put 2 different types of sources such as NASA which I woud say is trustworthy

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+13 votes
by Apprentice (1.9k points)
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From what I have found the information presented in this article is accurate. Not only is Greenland losing 20% percent more ice than researches had thought it would but it is likely going to have a warming effect on the ocean. The article has a link to The Nature Journal where the information is from. I this journal I found sources to information regarding how the data is collected as well as numerous other references that you can find more information from.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-023-06863-2

https://doi.org/10.5067/579TO87M7IZB.

by Novice (670 points)
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I found this factcheck very helpful. In regards to scientific information presented in mainstream media, it is helpful to refer to research articles and the places where the data is actually coming from. It is always possible to misinterpret data, so it is a good habit to find the sources where the numbers are coming from.
by Novice (610 points)
This fact check was helpful and does a good job of backing up the information but the information is still a little muddled so explaining the data a little more could be helpful.
by Novice (670 points)
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This fact check does a good job of backing up this claim with the evidence linked. However, I think this answer could go into more detail about why it is true instead of linking just evidence.
by Novice (900 points)
I found this fact check informative, but I believe that if you were to add direct quotes or find a way to connect it to your findings  in a stronger way. It may help the reader come to a better decision of the truth of the first article.
by Novice (770 points)
This was a very helpful Factcheck. It very clearly points out that the information in the article is accurate. The information provided about how data is collected could be expanded on a little more in relation to the original article to help support its accuracy.
by Novice (980 points)
This factcheck proved to be very beneficial. Referencing research articles and the actual sources of the data is helpful when evaluating scientific information presented in mainstream media. Finding the sources of the data is a good habit because it is always possible to interpret it incorrectly.
by Novice (550 points)
The fact that Greenland is losing 20% more ice than expected is important because it shows climate change is happening faster than we thought. It helps scientists make better predictions and shows we might need to take quicker action to deal with climate change.

The information you've mentioned about Greenland losing 20% more ice than researchers had anticipated, and the potential warming effect on the ocean, underscores the critical impact of climate change on our planet's cryosphere and its broader environmental consequences. The mention of The Nature Journal as a source adds credibility to the findings, given its reputation for publishing high-quality scientific research. This is a great factcheck.
by Novice (700 points)
This fact-check was very helpful! The way that you referenced the sources from which you found your information allowed for your argument to be very reliable. Although I do wish you went a bit more in-depth with your answer, it overall was straight forward.
by Novice (520 points)
You may want to include primary or research sources in your response because the content is good but your credibility could be upped through better sources
by Novice (810 points)
This was a good and concise fact-check. I liked how you mentioned and linked The Nature Journal because it allows readers to understand where this information originated from. I'd suggest possibly adding more information on the authors of The Nature Journals' study, along with more findings from the study to give readers a better understanding of this claim.
+8 votes
by Novice (820 points)

After doing research, the main claim of this article is accurate. After going back to the original study published on nature.com by verified scientists  Michael Wood & Joshua K. Cuzzone, their data shows that the consensus on how much ice has melted was underestimated by up to 20%. 

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-023-06863-2

https://orcid.org/0000-0001-6710-6297

https://orcid.org/0000-0002-1282-0597

https://orcid.org/0000-0002-8394-8889

https://www.nature.com/search?author=Michael%20Wood

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by Apprentice (1.2k points)
I really liked your factcheck! I found it to be straight to the point but it was still informative. I liked how you did your research on the scientists and make sure that they were legit. Including the links of the scientists' credentials.  Finding information like this is crucial to factchecking.
by Novice (810 points)
This was a good fact-check. I liked how you referred to the original study and gave information about the authors involved. I'd also suggest adding information on why nature.com is a credible source and what this websites intentions and goals are. This will help to solidify its reliability and confirm the claim as true.
by Journeyman (2.0k points)
I really like how many sources you used on this fact-check. I think it is very beneficial to have a variety of sources to view when I am looking into a news story. I do wish that you would have explained why you included each source to give the reader an understanding of what they might find if they visit those sources and how they apply to the claim.
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by Novice (740 points)
The following information is accurate and important: it has been discovered that Greenland is losing 20% more ice than previously estimated by researchers. According to a recent article by AXIOS titled "Greenland Ice Sheet lost 20% more ice mass than thought," this is alarming as it is causing changes in ocean currents and contributing to the worsening of global warming patterns.
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by Apprentice (1.6k points)
You have a pretty comprehensive answer, and I especially liked that you cited a specific article by a specific website. I don't see however how mentioning that it is an alarming claim is relevant, and I would recommend explaining why the source you mentioned is credible. I'd also recommend including links to the websites you referenced.
+4 votes
by Novice (640 points)
I have looked further into the claim of Greenland losing 20% more ice than we thought. I find this claim to be true. From the source AXIOS, it claims that Greenland is losing 20% more ice than we thought they would be according to a new study. The author of the AXIOS article, Andrew Freedman, is one of their senior climate reporters. He also cites "Nature", which is the organization that conducted the experiment from the original claim.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-023-06863-2

https://www.axios.com/2024/01/18/greenland-ice-sheet-lost-20-times-more-mass#
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by Novice (770 points)
This Factcheck is very helpful and informative. I agree that it does a good job at examining other sources to help support the validity of the originally article. The article that you cited to support the original one is a very good source especially because it is coming from a Senior Climate reporter.
by Novice (510 points)
Great fact check! I found this to be useful as you linked the claim back to the original source of the information!
by Novice (750 points)
This was a perfect fact check. When scrolling through your links especially the AXIOS article I noticed all the articles had another link to the actual study itself which was backed up by scientific research. It also agreed with the original article and you only showed me more proof in these other links.
by Novice (610 points)
I found this answer helpful and true. It does a good job of examining the facts and restating the statistics in the original article and the ones in the new sources.
by Novice (680 points)
Did you look into the Axios source? Is it reliable?
+1 vote
by Novice (770 points)
From my outside research, it can be concluded that the information in this article to be accurate. After looking at multiple articles to check the validity of the information provided, they all provided the same information about Greenland. They all said that it is losing 20% more ice than scientists originally had estimated.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2024/01/17/greenland-ice-sheet-sea-level-rise/

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/jan/17/greenland-losing-30m-tonnes-of-ice-an-hour-study-reveals

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/greenland-ice-sheet-melting-faster-than-scientists-previously-estimated/
by Journeyman (2.1k points)
Your response is succinct and straight to the point. I was questioning your answer because it is short but after checking out the reliable sources It is proven you did your research. It was shocking to see that the google search page was flooded with articles of this 20% loss and I wasn't aware until now.
+2 votes
by Novice (550 points)
After reading this claim, I researched the topic and found that the New York Times post about Greenland losing 20% more ice than we originally thought, was accurate. A similar article was made by the Washinton Post about Greenland's ice sheet melting. Both published on the same day, the articles from The New York Times and the Washington Post mentioned a research study to cite and back up their claims. When I looked into this research study, I found that it contained data that was accurately restated within the two articles. Concluding that the article's claim is accurate.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/17/climate/greenland-ice-sheet-melting.html?ref=oembed

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2024/01/17/greenland-ice-sheet-sea-level-rise/

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-023-06863-2
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by Apprentice (1.2k points)
The sources you posted seem to be conclusive and reputable, and the information you included in this fact-check was concise but still necessary. Overall, I think that it might have been good to include any missing context about Greenland's ice and what those studies in the sources found, but this is still a very effective fact-check.
+1 vote
by Novice (720 points)

Based on my findings, the content provided in this article appears to be reliable. Greenland is experiencing a 20% higher ice loss than initially anticipated, and this is expected to contribute to ocean warming. The article includes a link to The Nature Journal as the source of the information. In the journal, I discovered references explaining the data collection process and various other sources for additional information.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-023-06863-2

+1 vote
by Novice (800 points)

According to the CBC, Greenland is in fact losing ice. William Colgan, a senior researcher at the Geological Survey of Denmark and Greenland, said that Greenland is losing about 30 million tonnes of ice per hour. However, that is only factoring in the ice on the edge of the glacier. When accounting for the entire sheet of ice that covers Greenland, the ice loss is about 9,000-10,000 tonnes per second. 

https://www.cbc.ca/radio/thecurrent/greenland-melting-ice-1.7089298#:~:text=According%20to%20a%20study%20published,than%20scientists%20had%20previously%20estimated.

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by Champion (14.6k points)

This claim is true. Greenland has lost more than 20% more than what scientists initially predicted, which can cause difficulties with ocean circulation patterns and sea level advances. The ice cap is losing an average of 30m ice tonnes an hour. Because they are usually located within deep fjords below sea level, loss from the edges of glaciers will not directly affect the rising of sea level. However, the Atlantic Ocean could be affected due to the freshwater melting affecting the circulation patterns. According to The Guardian, "Major ice loss from Greenland as a result of global heating has been recorded for decades."

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+1 vote
by Novice (520 points)
This claim appears to be accurate. Both the Washington post and The Guardian have articles dedicated to similar topics which both utilize the same figures to describe the loss of ice in Greenland.

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