Silicone in breast implants are bulletproof

Question

"Doctors noted that the silicone implant was likely responsible for deflecting the bullet’s trajectory – ultimately saving the woman’s life."

- CNN

Comments

I don't know if this is necessarily true. But I think in most scenarios you are going to be severely hurt no matter what happens to you if you get shot. And there are also a lot more effects of having breast implants that could negatively decrease your quality of life. Bu that is just comes with most things in life as well. just a skeptical about this claim is all.

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this comment is not necessarily true and very misleading. looking at the article, the woman says her implants did save her life, however, they just changed the trajectory of the bullet. so while they did save this woman's life, that does not mean they are bulletproof. the bullet still went through the implant.

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The claim that "Silicone in breast implants are bulletproof" is false and misleading. The article and study state that the silicone breast implant deflected the bullet's trajectory, but they do not claim that the implant is bulletproof. The study highlights that the implant slowed and altered the bullet's path, which likely saved the woman's life by preventing the bullet from hitting vital organs. However, this does not mean the implant is bulletproof or can provide reliable protection against bullets in general, and it is not accurate to say breast implants are bulletproof.

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I really like your response to this claim because it clarifies a common misconception by focusing on the specific claim versus the actual information provided by the article. It helps a reader understand that while an implant may have deflected a bullet in one rare case, this does not mean implants are bulletproof.

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This is a very misleading claim. While the article stated that the implant deflected the bullet's trajectory, in no way did it state that it was bulletproof.

Answer 1

Silicone breast implants are not bulletproof, nor does the CNN article directly claim they are. As the article and the medical case study on the incident describe, the woman's breast implants saved her life not by stopping the bullet but by "altering bullet trajectory" so that it missed her vital organs.

There are several other instances of silicone implants saving women's lives in this way. One article in the peer-reviewed journal ePlasty discusses a study that found saline implants correlate with a "20.6% decrease in [bullet] penetration compared with that seen with no implant" and speculates that this percentage "may be further increased for silicone implants." This means that implants can provide a significant a protective benefit, though they are in no way guaranteed to stop or redirect a bullet's path.  

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I like how you enforced that the linked article did not claim that breast implants were not bulletproof. The original posted claim didn't bring any truthful evidence from the article and made a quick claim. Your linked article showed that it is a very rare occurance and not a scienctific fact that breast implants are bulletproof.

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I appreciate your clear response. I can see how the truth could easily get lost in this story, because those details are important. For example, someone could see the claim "a breast implant saved my life from a gunshot" and assume that means that breast implants are bulletproof when they are in fact, not.

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I liked that you clarified the difference between the connotations of the words "bulletproof" and "changed the bullet's trajectory." This claim is extremely misleading to begin with, and analyzing small details such as these are very important when reading articles to discover the real information behind them. The CNN article never once claimed that breast implants are bulletproof, and they also never claimed this as a general situation. What I mean is, just because one woman was saved by her breast implants, doesn't mean that this exact scenario will occur every single time a woman with breast implants is shot in the chest.

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There are several other cases where silicone implants have helped protect women in a similar way. A study published in the peer-reviewed journal ePlasty found that saline implants were associated with a "20.6% decrease in [bullet] penetration compared with that seen with no implant" and suggested that silicone implants might offer even greater protection. While implants can provide some level of defense by altering a bullet's path, they are not guaranteed to stop or deflect bullets entirely. Silicone breast implants are not bulletproof, and the CNN article does not suggest that they are. Instead, as both the article and the medical case study explain, the woman's implants saved her life by changing the bullet's trajectory, causing it to avoid hitting vital organs.

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I like how you cleared up what actually happened in the article and went further to find an additional article about the relationship between the bullets and implants.

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You did a really good job citing exterior sources. The truth can easily be lost in translation, so good job debunking this headline.

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I like how you included trusted sources and didn't just call it false, or misleading without evidence. It is not true, but it is very exaggerated as it can possibly save lives, so it isn't completely false.

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I appreciate the stance you took on this fact. You found great research and a more likely scenario. Stating that the implant didn't full reflect the bullet, but rather it altered it makes a lot more sense. I think this topic is very interesting. You cleared this up in a well mannered way.

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I appreciate how you didn't just explain that the claim was false, but went in depth on what the article was actually talking about. I also liked how you cited additional articles, giving lots of information

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I really appreciated how you responded to this prompt. While silicone breast implants are not bulletproof, the evidence suggests they can offer a degree of protection by altering the trajectory of a bullet, potentially saving lives. However, it's important to note that this is not a guaranteed outcome, and the extent of protection can vary.

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I appreciate how you clarified that the linked article never claimed breast implants are bulletproof although they clearly, in some cases, protect . The original post didn’t provide any factual support from the article and made an unsubstantiated claim. The article demonstrated that such an occurrence is extremely rare and doesn't necessarily verify breast implants being bulletproof.

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This is a fantastic response to the claim that silicon breast implants are bulletproof. You immediately pointed out how it was not the article's misinformation but the readers poor interpretation and exacerbation of the facts. Then to further prove the misinformation you used an extremely credible source and explained why it was credible. Great job!!

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i appreciate this response. going back and dissecting the article to find that there was no evidence in the article stating that silicone implants are bulletproof. this article is spreading misinformation and could easily lead people to believe that silicone implants are a "safer" option. i liked that you included statistics that prove that no lives are actually saved by having silicone implants.

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I agree with you because when they went depth it gave me a better understanding about the article than actually reading it and why it was false. Especially, because there was no evidence that silicone impacts are actually bulletproof.

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I appreciate your excellent response to the claim that silicone breast implants are bulletproof. You effectively pointed out that the article's misinformation stems from readers' misinterpretation of the facts. While implants may alter a bullet's trajectory and offer some protection, this is not guaranteed, and the extent of protection varies, in the end, you'll get hurt in some way whether mentally or physically. Your use of credible sources to debunk the myth was impressive you highlighted the article spreads misinformation, potentially leading people to believe that silicone implants are a "safer" option. Amazing job!

Answer 2

The article quoted for this claim does not directly claim that breast implants are bulletproof. Both the article and the medical case study describe the scenario as, "the breast implant altered the bullets trajectory" which made the bullet miss her vital organs, not that the breast implant was bulletproof. There are a few other instances of this happening to women with breast implants. A peer reviewed article called ePlasty shows a study that found saline implants can be correlated to a 20.6% decrease in penetration compared with that seen with no implant."20.6% decrease in penetration compared with that seen with no implant". This goes to show that implants can have a protective effect, but there is no guarantee that the implant will stop a bullet or change the trajectory of its path.

Comments

How would you rate the claim? False? True? Misleading? Always select a rating and mention it in your fact-check. Thanks!

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You're right that the phrasing can sometimes lead to misunderstandings about the protective capabilities of breast implants. The distinction between altering a bullet's trajectory and being bulletproof is crucial. It's interesting to see how studies like the one in ePlasty provide insight into the potential protective effects of saline implants, even if they don't guarantee safety.

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I like how you began by clarifying how the claim was exaggerating the events that happened. In addition to that, your use of a peer-reviewed article really helps to solidify your stance and show that breast implants help to decrease damage, but don't fully prevent it.

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I think your fact-check is very well-written. It's clear, straightforward, and well-supported. Overall—well done! I appreciate that your fact-check isn't incredibly long, but it still analyzes the arguments presented in the linked article and a similar related article. By putting the conclusions of the linked article and the supporting article in conversation, your argument against the supposed bullet-proof of certain breast implants is bolstered. Even so, if you wanted to make your argument even stronger, you might seek out a source that claims these implants are bullet-proof with evidence to support it. Then, you could seek to disprove this claim using your other findings.

Answer 3

With many situations of shootings used as an example in the Sage Medical Journal there was only one prime example that was focused on where a lady's implant stopped the velocity of a bullet and did end up saving her life. However, with that said she was still injured and the implant still took lots of damage and caused other issues as well. I do believe the word "bulletproof" implant is very much of a stretch and even CNN quotes, "The implant caused the change in the trajectory of the bullet" and actually misleads their own article away from the fact it completely stopped the bullet from entering the woman or harming her. The previously mentioned Sage Medical Journal also was incapable of settling down or mentioning specific details in any of the shootings mentioned and kept everything such as distance of the firearm and where exactly each shot hit.

Comments

I like how you explained that the implant didn't fully prevent the bullet from entering the women it just changed the direction which lead to less harm. I found the intital claim to be very exaggerated and misleading. The bullet still damaged her but the implant may have made it less servere and or life threatening. This did not equal a bullet proof implant.

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I like the emphasis on while it could prevent, it doesn’t mean theres an 100% chance of not being harmed just because of implants. I also like how you found a quote that conflicted with the title because changing the trajectory doesn’t mean the victim was completely safe and unharmed, it just didn't directly affect her organs.

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I liked how you used the source to point out its own misleading assertions. Something that would strengthen your argument even more is if you added another, more credible source like a medical journal or a police report discussing the ineffectiveness of breast implants in repelling bullets.

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I appreciated your research into the Sage Medical Journal incident as this provides a look into another similar situation that had a similar impact. You correctly identified the claim as exaggerated and misleading, as even the article and case claim that the implant changed the trajectory of the bullet rather than acting as bulletproof. I believe your analysis would be strengthened by the use of other credible sources such as medical research or a police report which explains more of the science behind the topics involved.

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i like that you did your research on this article and that you looked into Sage Medical Journal. they looked at other situations involving shooting and silicone implants, and not all implants were life saving. additionally, i like that you didn't diminish the incident and noted that she was still injured.

Answer 4

This is a case of lucky that the women who went through this got away with being lucky and with her having a breast implant she survived. I would say though this is a very misleading title. I would not say bullet proof but it did slow the bullet down. “The implant caused the change in the trajectory of the bullet,” - 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/21/americas/breast-implant-bullet-wound-wellness-intl-scli/index.html#:~:text=A%20woman%20who%20survived%20a,year%2Dold%20woman's%20vital%20organs.

Comments

I appreciate the inclusion of the source, however I feel like expanding on how the original claim was misleading and maybe another source added would help your claim. This is a solid response, but it could benefit from being fleshed out more.

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This factcheck was direct, though expanding it and possibly including what a breast implant is made out of and compare it to what is classified as bullet proof would definitely be an aid to your claim!

Answer 5

Silicone breast implants are in fact not bulletproof. According to the CNN article provided below it states that this story of the woman's experience of being shot was "one of only a handful of instances recorded in medical literature where a breast implant played a role in saving a patient’s life, and the first recorded instance of a silicone implant doing so". After stating that it was "the first recorded instance of a silicone implant to be a barrier for the bullet", the claim instantly jumped to "the silicone breast plant being bulletproof" 

Additionally, the CNN article states "The implant caused the change in the trajectory of the bullet". Although it may have changed the trajectory of the bullet, does not necessarily mean that all silicone breast implants will do the same. 

Said from certified plastic surgeon, Christopher Pannucci in his article Can a Breast Implant Stop a Bullet, "Breast implants were not intended to stop projectiles such as bullets or knives. A knife and/or bullet can easily penetrate through an implant.". Through his experiment he was able to see that even it could possibly deter the bullet's path, it is never guaranteed that every breast implant will change or stop the impact of a bullet. Proving that although this women had a lucky case, that not all silicone breast implants are not made to be bullet proof or are bullet proof. 

https://www.dr-adams.com/blog/can-a-breast-implant-stop-a-bullet/

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I like that you found another more credible source to prove this wrong. Often, I think we get so caught up in trying to find topics that relate to a source that we don't just see if any articles by more credible people specifically prove something right or wrong. Like here, who would have known that there was a certified plastic surgeon who covered this topic? And it makes things a lot easier in the long run.

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I agree with your statement and love how you used an outside source that is not common within the comments. I had no idea there was an expirement that myth busted this statement. A barrier does not mean bulletproof and implants will not always protect one’s organs from a bullet. I agree that while it may have saved some, it is unsafe to say that implants are bulletproof as it is misleading to women.

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I completely agree with your claim, and appreciate that you included an additional source that proves your point. Though there was some degree of truth in the original claim, and that women was very lucky, it was very broad and cannot be believed in all scenarios. I also think experiments are great resources / evidence when trying to prove something testable like this.

Answer 6

The meaning of bulletproof is impenetrable to bullets. Bulletproof Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster According to CNN the implants altered the direction of the bullet, rather than stop It. (Meaning the bullet still passed through the implant) Leading the claim to be false.  A Ballistics Examination of Firearm Injuries Involving Breast Implants - Pannucci - 2018 - Journal of Forensic Sciences - Wiley Online Library In an experiment testing this claim, it was found that the implant did slow the round down. However, this source doesn't specify many important variables. Regardless, both articles clearly state that the implant had minimal influence on stopping the round. 

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You explained this rather well and brought good sources to boot. The claim is a gross generalization, to be sure, but as you pointed out, it is just plain false. Even the breast implant that did save the woman's life was still penetrated and is inherently not bulletproof. I appreciate your thorough definition of terms and fact check.

Answer 7

This article claims silicone breast implants are bulletproof, even though it doesn’t explicitly back up that claim with concrete evidence, however it uncovers how implants have the potential to deflect or curve a bullet's tract. 

One of the procedures that plastic surgeons perform most frequently is breast augmentation using silicone implants, which surprisingly have saved women's lives over the years. For example, a 30 year old woman got shot and hit her bilateral breast implants. According to the report, the silicone implant was likely responsible for deflecting the bullet's trajectory and saving her life as Giancarlo McEvenue explains, “The only source of deflection is the patient’s silicone implant." That deflection is what was said to have saved the woman's life. “This implant overlies the heart and intrathoracic cavity and therefore likely saved the woman’s life.” Which again reinforces that the bullet could’ve caused a great deal of harm, but the implant alleviated some of the pressure. 

The article never directly claims or states that breast implants are bulletproof, it more so goes into statistics regarding the technology behind how breast implants work and how common they are. A different article by Christopher J. Pannucci et al agrees “It would be a mistake to believe that an implant could be a substitute for a bullet-proof vest.”

So yes, the silicon breast implant did take part in saving this woman's life, but not for the reason the title claims. They are not bulletproof, but in some cases have prevented more extensive injuries due to their ability to deflect the bullet's tract. 

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/2513826X19898821

https://www.k-online.com/en/Media_News/News/The_unexpected_benefit_of_breast_implants

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This is a good explanation and you offer a more reasonable claim - that breast implants have in some cases prevented more extensive injury. I appreciate your links to scientific articles to back the point! Your second link contains a very interesting experiment where people tested shooting a block of ballistic gel with and without a silicon breast implant in the way, and there was a 20% reduction in how far the bullet got into the ballistic gel! Very thoughtful sources.

Answer 8

The statement itself is never proven to be correct in the CNN article, it is however, an extreme exaggeration of what happened. According to the CNN article, "The implant caused the change in the trajectory of the bullet." So while the statement claims that the implants are bulletproof, the actual article itself confirms that the implant deflected the bullet in a once in a lifetime situation, not that silicone implants are ALWAYS bulletproof, which they are not proven to be. 

Answer 9

This claim is not true. The article listed a rare circumstance of a breast implant saving a women's life. The article link doesn't even claim that breastplants are bulletproof. She was extremely lucky to have to bullet not penetrate her actual body and orgrans. An article by CNN12 states "It's one of only a handful of instances recorded in medical literature in which a breast implant played a role in saving a patient's life." So no a breast implant is not a bulletproofing surgery. 

Source: https://cbs12.com/news/nation-world/womans-breast-implants-save-her-life-by-deflecting-bullet-after-being-shot-at-close-range 

Answer 10

Silicone breast implants are not designed to be bulletproof, and the CNN article doesn’t claim they are. Instead, both the article and the medical case study explain that the implants saved the woman’s life by changing the bullet’s path, causing it to avoid her vital organs. There are also other documented cases where silicone implants have saved lives in a similar way. For example, a study published in the journal ePlasty found that saline implants led to a “20.6% reduction in bullet penetration” compared to cases without implants, and the study suggests this protective effect could be even greater with silicone implants. While implants may offer some protection by altering or slowing a bullet’s trajectory, they are not guaranteed to stop or deflect a bullet completely. The Sage Medical Journal highlighted several cases of shootings, but only one prominent example where a woman’s implant reduced the velocity of a bullet, ultimately saving her life. However, despite this, she was still injured, and the implant sustained significant damage, causing additional complications. Referring to the implant as “bulletproof” is certainly an exaggeration. Even CNN, while quoting, “The implant caused the change in the trajectory of the bullet,” somewhat misrepresents the situation by downplaying the fact that the bullet did not completely stop but was redirected away from more critical areas. Furthermore, the Sage Medical Journal did not provide specific details about the shootings, such as the distance from which the firearms were discharged or the exact locations of the shots, leaving key aspects of the incidents unclear.