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The 2020 election was stolen. Far too much evidence has surfaced since the election, to prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that there was election fraud.

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 The 2020 election was not stolen. The claim that it was, has been refuted by a numerous amount of government officials - some of which was part of his own administration. According to AP News Media, "Trump’s allegations of massive voting fraud have been refuted by a variety of judges, state election officials and an arm of his own administration’s Homeland Security Department.". This is clearly showing that the election was not stolen.

In the same article, AP News Media reviews the results of the electoral college, where Trump received 232 votes versus Biden who received 306 votes. It also compares the 2016 election, "...the same margin that Trump had when he beat Hillary Clinton in 2016, which he repeatedly described as a “landslide.” (Trump ended up with 304 electoral votes because two electors defected.)". Trump contradicts himself in these continuous statements of a "stolen" election, when the same margins won him the 2016 election in a "landslide". 

Also, the 2020 presidential election was the most secure in American history. From a Reuters article, "The 2020 presidential election was the most secure in American history, according to a statement issued by the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, part of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, on Nov. 12, 2020.". Once again, this proves that there was no fraud. Through the Reuters article, it led me to the official statement in which it says " There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised.". 


Overall, the claims that the 2020 presidential election was stolen is false. There is a mountain of evidence that proves the election was not stolen.

https://apnews.com/article/rnc-trump-stolen-election-claims-6b3bdc8c0b69cf1b9311068ee6cdae8c 

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trumps-false-claims-debunked-2020-election-jan-6-riot-2022-01-06/

https://www.cisa.gov/news-events/news/joint-statement-elections-infrastructure-government-coordinating-council-election 

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You’ve made some strong points about the evidence against claims of a stolen election, particularly the contradictions in Trump’s statements. It might be helpful to mention the role of social media in spreading misinformation, as that influences public perception significantly. Additionally, referencing specific legal cases where these fraud claims were dismissed could further strengthen your argument. Overall, your points highlight the consensus on the election's integrity, but a broader context could enhance the discussion.
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This is a great response to the claim! You did a great job giving credible sources and putting this issue in perspective by adding the context of the 2016 election. I wonder why your quote says it was the most secure in history, and if you could add the reasoning or a link to find it instead of just saying the claim. However, you send on another strong reliable quote that there was no tampering of any kind.
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This claim has zero truth to it and is unequivocally false. A person in power claiming something as huge as an election being stolen gained lots of attention, and it has been disproved. This claim and other issues created by it have been taken to court several times, and the results of every one of these cases suggest that this was untrue. Liz Cheney, former Chair of the House Republican Conference, publicly stated in 2021 that, "The president and many around him pushed this idea that the election had been stolen. And that is a dangerous claim. It wasn't true,". She also said that there were 60+ court cases in which judges looked at evidence and said there was no proof of widespread fraud. There were also many cases that did not even reach the court because of a lack of evidence. The first link I provided details a few of the many court cases. Christopher Krebs, a government employee who was in charge of monitoring the security of the election, stated there had never been a more secure election in our country than the 2020 election. Furthermore, a popular talking point of those in support of this claim is that Biden magically surpassed Trump in a few key states after the night of the election. However, it had already been widespread information that lots and lots of absentee ballots would be counted after the day of the election. It was public information that these ballots would be counted a bit late, and this breaks zero laws. Lastly, audits were held in several states, including ones where Trump called fraud. In Georgia, they unprecedentedly audited all of the absentee ballots (had never been done in Georgia) and not a single fraudulent ballot was found. Audits in other states also found no fraud. This is a very dangerous claim that has never had any truth to it and it must be put to rest.

Info: https://campaignlegal.org/results-lawsuits-regarding-2020-elections

https://campaignlegal.org/common-questions-and-answers-about-2020-election-results

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The 2020 Election Was Stolen 

Claim: The 2020 election was stolen. Far too much evidence has surfaced since the election, to prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that there was election fraud.

Source: bsky.app and https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/11/politics/jd-vance-trump-2020-election/index.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=blueskyCNN&utm_content=2024-10-11T23:07:20

Fact-Check: This claim was originally posted on the app Bluesky, and then later was transferred over to Newsdetective, but it is completely false. The 2020 election was never stolen. The user who made the claim mentioned that there is a lot of evidence about this election fraud, which should’ve been the main focus of his claim, but there is zero clear evidence pointing to the election being stolen from Donald Trump. In the very article that this user referenced, it never clearly mentions that the 2020 election was stolen. This claim has been debunked throughout various reliable sources, especially including political scientist Andrew C. Eggers and his colleagues, Haritz Garro and Justin Grimmer, who, in their extremely informative article, use statistics and graphs based on many different topics such as county vs. vote distribution, expected bellwether wins, and many more interesting topics. The writers in this article talks about the fact that, “"The reason Biden won a clear majority of votes while winning a minority of counties is that his support was concentrated in populous counties. This is typical of recent Democratic presidential candidates” (Eggers 9). Also with all their evidence, they came to the conclusion that there was nothing in their statistical tests that supported Trump’s claim of a stolen election. Furthermore, in another great source, the former chair of the House Republican Conference, Liv Cheney, stated in 2021, "There were over 60 court cases where judges, including judges appointed by President Trump and other Republican presidents, looked at the evidence in many cases and said there is not widespread fraud” (CLC 2). It seems that the popular idea was that Biden, out of nowhere, received votes and surpassed Trump in key states after the night of the election. It was mentioned all over the news and articles that the ballots would be counted a little later than usual, which is completely fair and breaks no laws. In Georgia, an unprecedented audit was done of all absentee ballots - something that has never happened before in the state - and not one fraudulent vote was found. Audits in other states also found no signs of fraud. This claim has been proven wrong numerous times and needs to stop being said on social media. There are opinions, and then there are straight lies. 

My Sources: 

https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2103619118

https://campaignlegal.org/results-lawsuits-regarding-2020-elections

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I really enjoyed reading your fact-check and like the structured approach. Thanks!
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The claim is that the 2020 election between the Republican Party nominee Donald Trump and the Democratic Party nominee Joe Biden, was stolen. Looking through countless sources we can see this claim is blatantly false. One of the major battleground states in every election is Georgia, which many who claim the 2020 election was stolen point to as the state that lost Donald Trump the election. Although, after the election, absentee ballots in Georgia were audited and found that there was no voter fraud. "Due to the tight margin of the race and the principles of risk-limiting audits, this audit was a full manual tally of all votes cast. The audit confirmed that the original machine count accurately portrayed the winner of the election." Also , audits in other states found that there was no voter fraud as well. 

https://sos.ga.gov/page/2020-general-election-risk-limiting-audit

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The 2020 election was not rigged and this claim has no truth to it. Because it was complained about so many times, it got checked into by courts, reporters, and the American people. From the source of CLC This claim has been thoroughly investigated and debunked by multiple sources. According to Rep. Liz Cheney, the former chair of the House Republican Conference, stated on February 23, 2021: "There were over 60 court cases where judges, including judges appointed by President Trump and other Republican presidents, looked at the evidence in many cases and said there is not widespread fraud." This claim is one of the many sources shown to have proven the 2020 election was not stolen and is a false claim. In conclusion, there is an overwhelming amount of evidence shows the results of the 2020 election were legitimate. 

https://campaignlegal.org/results-lawsuits-regarding-2020-elections

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This was a great comment to this claim, specifically with your credited quote. I would add that the claim originally came from Trump and continues to be enabled by him, and that under his guise, his followers have come to trust the legal system less, as they believe he was correct. The quote you included is important, especially with how many of the judges were republican, and but I would expand on that to say that this issue and claim has caused a divide in the republican party: those who follow Trump blindly and those who do not.
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This claim, while provocative, is false. I researched if the 2020 election was stolen, and went to the Campaign Legal Center and AP News and found found more about where the claim originates from, the legal investigation onto the claim, and how this claim has remained a popular belief among Trump supporters. After the results of the 2020 election. came in with Trump losing, he made repeated claims through his Twitter or in interviews that the election was stolen, on the grounds of a miscount. In reaction to his claims, many states recounted and came to the same conclusion that Biden won. The CLC article lists the various post-election cases, giving summaries and noting for each why they were deemed false, and including any evidence cited to claim they were stolen. In light of time, Trump has continued to push his narrative that the election was still stolen, which many of his followers have latched onto, their loyalty blinding their ability to see the court evidence and investigation.

https://campaignlegal.org/results-lawsuits-regarding-2020-elections

https://apnews.com/article/rnc-trump-stolen-election-claims-6b3bdc8c0b69cf1b9311068ee6cdae8c
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This claim is false. The 2020 presidential election between Incumbent Republican president Donald Trump and former Democratic Vice President Joe Biden had no legitimate verifiable evidence of being stolen from Donald Trump besides numerous claims from the former president. According to Usa Today the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency made a statement saying " The November 3rd election was the most secure in American history" they also said that " there is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes or was in any way compromised"     

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