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The two rappers had circled one another for more than a decade, but their attacks turned relentless and very personal in a slew of tracks released over the weekend.
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by Apprentice (1.4k points)
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This claim can not be true or false because it is an opinion. However, the article they linked in their claim could be used to justify their opinion. The author of the article from the New York Times, Joe Coscarelli, has written numerous cultural articles on music for the New York Times, which has a high credible rating. 

In terms of the article's content, the article goes through the timeline of the beef between Kendrick Lamar and Drake.  I found an additional article from Billboard (a website dedicated to music) that was similar to the original article. However back to the original claim I found from other sources such as The Root, and Complex which both cover specifically hip hop lists of other notable rap beefs.  

To wrap things up, the claim can neither be true nor false because it is an opinion.

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Joe Coscarelli Profile

New York Times Reliability

Drake vs Kendrick Billboard

Root's Article

Complex's Article

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by Apprentice (1.1k points)

This was a really good news to bring back. Specially, it’s been a couple months since people been talking about it. I found that you are 100% right. Specially when the Drake versus Kendrick Lamar what’s going on. All you would see and hear about is who do you vote for.

https://www.billboard.com/lists/drake-kendrick-lamar-beef-timeline/ 

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by Novice (960 points)
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Although I agree with you and your statement that this was a significant cultural event, I do feel as if to say that the articles claim that it was the "best" example of this event, is an opinion. I also feel as if you possibly should have explained a bit more about the source you found. Overall though, I liked your reasoning and this was a good fact check.
by Novice (670 points)
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It seems to me like this is more of an opinion than a fact. Calling something the "best" is more subjective and a discussion about if it was the most well known or impactful rap beef would be a different conversation.
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by Legend (7.2k points)
The actual best rap, most entertaining, juiciest rap beef in history is the one between Megan Thee Stallion and Nicki Minaj. This is a title single-handedly achieved by the line "these **'s don't be mad at Megan, these **'s mad at Megan's Law" from Hiss, by Megan Thee Stallion. This line sent Nicki Minaj on a rampage on Instagram Live and Twitter. Unlike Kendrick and Drake, this beef went far beyond the music.

https://www.billboard.com/lists/nicki-minaj-megan-thee-stallion-feud-timeline/
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by Newbie (400 points)
While the Kendrick Lamar vs Drake beef was a very captivating and exciting rap beef it is impossible to objectively measure a beef as the "best in history". Other notable rap beefs such as Pusha T-Drake, Jay Z-Nas, 50 Cent-Ja Rule and Tupuc-Biggie, have all had huge and lasting impacts on the rap genre and landscape as a whole. Which beef is the "best" comes down to personal taste and experiences.

https://949thebeat.iheart.com/content/2024-06-05-10-iconic-rap-beefs-that-rocked-the-world-before-drake-kendrick-lamar/
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by Apprentice (1.3k points)
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This fact-check is well done in proving that this question is opinion-based and cannot be fact-checked. This response is also well done because it points out some of the other opinions that people may have.
by Newbie (310 points)
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This is a good fact-check when bringing it back to the central idea of how it is based on opinion rather than facts. If this article were to compare the amount of press covering different "rap beefs" between generations as well as chartings of artists I believe they could assess what beef was "the best in history".
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by Novice (780 points)

Hi there! While this is a really fun and exciting claim to make, I don't think it can possibly be true or false due to the fact that we cannot measure one rap beef versus another. Think quantitative versus qualitative data (National Health Institute link). When looking up other beefs between rappers from the past, it is a similar case that these are just an opinion. In addition, using the NY Times as a source to back this claim up supports what I previously said as it's really just an opinion based claim. However when doing some research, I did find someone who used an  H-R diagram that is traditionally used to measure and map stars and use it in a similar fashion to measure rap beefs importance. This could be really interesting to look at!!

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/06/arts/music/kendrick-lamar-drake-explainer.html

https://www.nihlibrary.nih.gov/resources/subject-guides/health-data-resources/common-data-types-public-health-research#:~:text=Quantitative%20data%20is%20measurable%2C%20often,events%20(Wang%2C%202013).

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by Newbie (320 points)
This claim is more of an opinion and cant be proven true or false since there was other beefs with rappers like Tupac vs B.I.G, Jay-z vs Nas, Nicki Minaj vs Cardi B, Megan the stallion vs Tony Lopez, etc. Whether you think that one beef was better than the other is based off of personal experience and opinions. Looking through the link showing the billboard charts of the music produced between both Kendrick and Drake can influence your decision whichever way youd like.

https://www.billboard.com/lists/drake-kendrick-lamar-beef-timeline/
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ago by Novice (580 points)
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Thank god you didn't use the word 'captivating.' I cannot stress enough how important other rapper beefs are over this brand new beef between Kendrick and Drake. Also, it is absolutely subjective. Thank you for highlighting this.
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During My lifetime Drake vs Kendrick is definitely the biggest and most influential rap beef. In history, I believe that Eazy-E vs Ice Cube is the biggest beef in history The origin of the beef was over money when they were both in the same rap group, NWA. In response, they both dropped diss tracks against each other. At the time there had been nothing like this, rap beef was a brand-new thing. Before Eazy-E passed away they eventually made up which is what I hope happens between Drake and Kendrick.

Ranking Kendrick Lamar albums by sales

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ago by Novice (580 points)

The fact that 50 Cent and Ja Rule have been beefing for over 26 years is more than enough information that your claim is false. The Drake and Kendrick Lamar beef is cheesy and is a hot-button reaction of the last few months. Objectively, they're beefing for mutual monetary gains. Subjectively, 50 Cent is way funnier and has made tracks dissing Ja Rule that have made billboard charts as well. "Wanksta" by 50 Cent is a direct diss to Ja Rule and has had widespread fame for a lot longer. Your claim is subjective and misleading.

https://www.capitalxtra.com/artists/50-cent/lists/ja-rule-complete-relationship-history/wanksta/

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