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by Prodigy (10.4k points)
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Bullshit I have seen it with my own eyes, liberal fucktards can't admit that blacks commit these crimes ( go look at the rape rates and crime stats ) 95% are done by blacks in SA. Yup and that's with a corrupt black government.

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by Journeyman (2.2k points)
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This claim and response/explanation is extremely exaggerated, biased, and honestly just foul, but that's besides the point. I think that this claim is based off racial stereotypes from a clearly highly opinionated standpoint. When looking at crime and rape rates in South Africa  we want to look at data and evidence rather than opinion and prejudices. According to the NCJRS virtual library, racial and income factors play a part in deciding the average highest crime rates in South Africa. NCJRS quotes that, "Colored and African peoples who do not enjoy high standards of living have the highest crime rates." Notice the emphasis on how mainly people who are negatively impacted by poverty commit the most crimes. Meaning that this problem is mainly linked to socioeconomic status and not just race. This fact is true in many cases, that people living in poverty in industrial countries are more likely to commit crimes. I think that this claim creates harmful racists prejudices against people of color and suggests that all people of color are criminals and rapists which is so far from the truth. 

https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/crime-south-africa-comparative-analysis#:~:text=COLORED%20AND%20AFRICAN%20PEOPLES%2C%20WHO,OBSERVED%20IN%20MOST%20OTHER%20COUNTRIES.  

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by Novice (500 points)
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I really like how you showed that is a vey exaggerated claim to make against black people in Africa. This is very stereotypical claim to make and it should not be made this way at all. I really like how you used quotes to back up you claim against this.
by Novice (950 points)
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This response did a great job pointing out the facts in this claim and how there is not any evidence backing the claim. I like how you made the point that the claim comes from a racist ideology and how it is biased.
by Newbie (350 points)
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I completely agree with you that this is exaggerated and I also think that this could be a harmful post to make.
by Apprentice (1.2k points)
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You've hit on a really important point. It's so crucial to look at the data and understand the real factors behind crime rates, especially in a place like South Africa with its history. The link between poverty and crime is clear in many places, and focusing on race alone just creates harmful stereotypes and misses the bigger picture of socioeconomic inequality.
by Novice (600 points)
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Thank you for responding to such an offending claim. It is super crucial to look at crime rates, in this case South Africa, in order to prove the truth of this claim. Thank you for pointing out the pure hatred, bias, and stereotypical themes this claim obtains. Thank you for your extensive research and sources to further build your argument as well. Nice work.
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by Novice (660 points)
Crime statistics should be based on verified data, not personal observations or racial stereotypes. In South Africa, crime is linked to complex factors like poverty, unemployment, and the lasting effected of apartheid--not race. Making unfounded claims about racial groups only promotes harmful prejudices instead of addressing the real social and economic causes of crime.
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by Apprentice (1.6k points)
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I enjoy your claim because you checked the claim with common sence although you could have added some data to prove it. It's pretty easy to gather that the original claim is false but to prove it data would be most helpful. Finally I liked the sentence "Making unfounded claims about racial groups only promotes harmful prejudices" and thought you made a strong point.
by Apprentice (1.3k points)
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Thank you for this response. The original post included a link that doesn't exist anymore. It seems like the original post included some personal biases, which led to an extremely exaggerated and misleading post.
by Innovator (60.9k points)
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Do you have any sources to back up your fact-check? Strong fact-checks include concrete data, expert quotes, and evidence. Thanks!
by Novice (710 points)
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Great start here, but including concrete evidence and sources to help inform and back up your claim is what will make this a fact-check rather than just an argument, albeit one you seem to have researched. Including evidence will help you create an even stronger response!
by Novice (580 points)
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Absolutely agree. Crime statistics must be grounded in verified, objective data—not assumptions, hearsay, or racially charged narratives. South Africa’s high crime rates are deeply rooted in its history of systemic inequality, including the lasting impacts of apartheid, which left many communities struggling with poverty, unemployment, and limited access to quality education and healthcare. These are the true drivers of crime, not race.
by Newbie (290 points)
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I like your response because you really acknowledge the root issues with the crime rates rather than just saying that they are not true.
by Newbie (490 points)
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Great answer I liked the way you explain option and stereotyping when in reality it is about the actual observed data.
by Newbie (350 points)
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I agree with your more common sense way of thinking about this claim. It makes it easier to take step back and really understand.
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You made a good point that crime stats should be based on facts, not just personal views or stereotypes. I agree that crime in South Africa is linked to poverty, unemployment, and apartheid’s effects, not race. Focusing on these bigger issues is how we can reduce crime; however It would have been even stronger if you included a link to a trusted source or official data to back up your points.
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by Novice (640 points)

After doing research, theres no clear data that states that 95% of rape crimes, and crimes in general, are committed by Black people in South Africa. This claim seems to be made based on how you specifically feel about the statistics. On South Africa Gateway, it says the population consists of 63 million people. The. breakdown of that is that there is 81% Blacks, 8.5% coloreds, 2.6% Indian/Asian, and 7.2% White. Just from looking a that, you can guess that many crimes are committed by Black residents because they are the majority of the population. But again, there is no concrete evidence or statistics that the Black residents of South Africa commit these crimes.

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by Novice (760 points)
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The hyperlink is really sleek and the whole presentation of this fact check is very professional especially in a situation where someone would like to be unprofessional. The break down of demographics is also really helpful, I appreciate the effort to shoot down this ideology.
by Novice (580 points)
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You're exactly right to point out that population demographics alone can't be used to draw conclusions about crime rates among specific racial groups—especially without credible, detailed data to support such claims. The fact that Black South Africans make up over 80% of the population means they will naturally be represented in many areas of public life, including crime statistics. But that doesn't equate to causation or justify racial generalizations.
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by Novice (580 points)
This claim that "95% of rape crimes, and crimes in general, are committed by black people in South Africa" is FLASE and rooted in misinformation. South Africa's population is over 80% Black African, so it's misleading to make generalizations without considering the full context. Crime statistics in South Africa are not consistently broken down by race, and there is no credible evidence to support such a specific and extreme figure. Research also shows that most rape causes in South America are interracial meaning the victim and perpetrator are usually of the same race. This is true across all racial groups and highlights that race is not a useful or fair way to determine criminal behavior.
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by Apprentice (1.6k points)
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Good reasoning! I like your approach and logic and is very convincing. However you reference research about how most rape causes in South America are interracial, but don't cite where you got that information. having that as a part of your fact check would strengthen your claims exponentially and would be a great way for others to research this topic as well. Other than that really good job, keep it up!
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by Newbie (290 points)

While this claim is already extremely misleading assuming reputable data, the source of this statistic cannot even be determined. After investigating the source cited, there is nothing to see other than a deleted post on BlueSky, a social media platform. When looking at official crime data from the South African Police Service (SAPS) and Statistics South Africa (Stats SA), there are no shown statistics that agree with the claim being made. Even if this statistic were true, it would still be very misleading, as South Africa has such a large majority proportion of black people in their population. So even if this statistic was true, it would not be any crazy remark to claim that the majority of crime is committed by the majority population group within a society. To go even further, crime rates are well understood to be much more affected by poverty rates, and not by any racial factors. 

https://www.wsj.com/world/africa/trump-afrikaner-south-africa-refugee-d5ad7b94

https://www.statssa.gov.za/publications/P0341/P0341August2024.pdf

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by Novice (600 points)
This claim is disgusting. It proceeds to tell you to "(go look at the rape rates and crime stats)", but can't provide the information about where this stats are published. There are a lot of other factors that go into crime statistics besides just racial profiling. First, the South African Police Service (SAPS) doesn't even publish the crime statistics according to race. (Dullah Omar Institue) So, nowhere does it explicitly say 95%. Yes, you can infer based on the demographics of South Africa that a lot of the crimes committed are by black people, considering roughly 80% of the population is of darker skin. (Wall Street Journal) But it is unfair to associate a race with crimes themselves. Other factors like socioeconomic embalances, historical inequalities, and systemic problems stemming from the apartheid era should be taken into account. This claim is exaggerated/misleading and overall just a gross comment to make, especially without evidence to back it up.

https://www.wsj.com/world/africa/trump-afrikaner-south-africa-refugee-d5ad7b94?utm_source=chatgpt.com

https://dullahomarinstitute.org.za/acjr/resource-centre/Inequality%20paper.pdf
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by Newbie (350 points)

This claim is completely incorrect and exaggerated because the statistics are nowhere near accurate. Not every rape has been recorded and there cannot be a guarentee that the opinion here is not racially based. The claim here is not proven on any account so I am insure how to even explain this claim. In this brief by the Bereau of Justice Statistics  that I found it states that only 22% of sexual assault acts were committed by Black or African American individuals. When I attempt to look up the statistic above, nothing comes up. 

https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/revcoa18.pdf

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by (190 points)
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You made a good point that the original claim isn’t backed up by real data and might be based on unfair racial ideas. It’s also true that not all crimes get reported, so we have to be careful about big general statements. The fact that the Bureau of Justice Statistics says only 22% of sexual assaults were by Black or African American people is strong proof against the claim. Using a trusted source like the BJS helps show the truth and stop wrong information from spreading.
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by (190 points)

The claim that 95% of rape and other crimes in general are committed by Black people is completely false, harmful, and rooted in racist stereotypes rather than actual facts. Official crime data from credible sources like the FBI and the Bureau of Justice Statistics show that people of all races commit crimes, and no single racial group is responsible for the vast majority. For example, according to information from the FBI, In America “In 2016, 69.6 percent of all individuals arrested were White, 26.9 percent were Black or African American, and 3.6 percent were of other races.” This claim makes even less sense on a global scale, since Black people are a minority in many countries and therefore could not possibly be responsible for most crimes worldwide. The true drivers of crime rates are social and economic factors such as poverty, lack of access to education or jobs, and systemic inequality—not race. Blaming crime on one racial group ignores these root causes and only serves to fuel discrimination, hatred, and violence. Spreading such false claims does not help solve societal problems, and instead, worsens them by reinforcing dangerous stereotypes that contribute to racism and injustice. https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/topic-pages/tables/table-21

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by Novice (810 points)
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Amazing fact-check! You used UCR FBI's Data to prove that black people commit 95% of sexual assault cases to be false. You showed and backed up that one specific race is not at fault for crimes committed by all races. You also voiced that blaming a specific race creates racism and injustice in the world, so good job.

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